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Comic 138: Meeting PC

(unshaded for now - it's really about time I got a new page up! Been busy with other stuff)
The Consolers meet PC, who doesn't seem to happy to see them...

(Also, the hard part here is writing Microsoft since, well, even if the actual company makes the Xbox console they also make PCs and PC games...)

Comments:

MadJak91
by MadJak91 at 30th Apr 2017, 10:28 PM

I will not lie: Handhelds are still worth it in my opinion and maybe Nintendo consoles but the rest really is also on PC with maybe a few months delay but is and often with improvements. A few years back I would have had this debate but anymore, really.
Even old console games like the whole FF series are on Steam now any many other games coming.
Nintendo has long standing console exclusive series and handheld games usually do not come to PC so that is why those are still relevant.
But then the illegality of emulators is also starting to change. Slowly.

by Gamechamp at 1st May 2017, 4:17 AM

It's not even "slowly," emulators were deemed 100% legal in court back when Sony tried to sue a couple companies who were selling PS1 emulators while the console was still new. You can buy emulators running ROMs and ISOs on all the major platform holders. If the emulator doesn't use any of the original copyrighted code, it doesn't matter what game ROMs can run on it, and the ROM itself is wholly owned by the publisher of the specific game. The only illegal part of the emulation scene is the copying and distribution of ROMs by individuals other than the copyright owner.

The only real issue is "emulation" is a dirty word due to the hostility towards the idea back in the early days before developers recognized it as a viable method of selling games, and the prevalence of definitely illegal ROM sharing websites. Even when you can buy ROMs running on emulators, they make up fancy names that ignore the issue entirely. Like "Virtual Console".

Gamechamp
by MadJak91 at 1st May 2017, 9:11 PM

Gamechamp, your avatar is damn familiar... Like I have seen it around PotD on GameFAQs, haha.

Anyway. You are correct. Emulators were always in the green or at least became green later. I would argue the impossible when it comes to ROMs just for the heck of it because if you are sitting on an old game then at least release the source. You are not going to get any more money for it so if not that, then allow people to play it via ROMs. Sure, it is still copyrighted and all that blabla but the only person getting money is some random seller on eBay at most.
However, most DO put their games on virtual console like store as classics so at least that.

MadJak91
by Zanreo at 1st May 2017, 5:28 AM

Even so, I've just never been much of a fan of playing games on PC compared to consoles, just as a preference... playing games on either a handheld console or in front of the TV* rather than a computer feels better to me. I think the only way I'll play more steam games is getting a steam machine x3 I'll also know the games can actually run on the platform (even though that's not really the biggest issue for me since I don't play a lot of HIGH SPEC games)

* I know you can plug your computer into a TV to use that screen, but I only have one computer (well, that and a spare that is falling apart and I prefer not to move around too much) and no way I'm moving that back and forth all the time

Zanreo
by MadJak91 at 1st May 2017, 9:13 PM

No. I totally get that :D
Just that the pro-PC argument is REALLY strong these days and I have to give a lot of credit to most remarks. "PC Master Race" still irks me as something eye-roll worthy though.
Ya, everyone should just play games how they see fit. I know one person who absolutely cannot imagine herself with a mouse and a keyboard when it comes to games so to each their own :D

MadJak91
by Zanreo at 1st May 2017, 10:54 PM

Yeah, the PC character is in fact largely based around the "PC master race" attitude
"I know one person who absolutely cannot imagine herself with a mouse and a keyboard when it comes to games" yeah, that's me too, and pretty much all genres that work better with mouse and keyboard are also genres I'm not generally interested in (yeah, I know you can connect controllers to PCs)

Zanreo
NeilKapit
by NeilKapit at 1st May 2017, 6:32 AM

I'm wondering exactly what Microsoft is trying to do with their "Play Anywhere" initiative; while it's a good deal for consumers, doesn't having cross-buy for console and PC make the physical console version far less lucrative? And is it really going to entice PC gamers when it's sold through the remarkably poor Windows Store, instead of somewhere that already has a user base like Steam? Is this whole thing part of a gradual phasing out of the console business, without the outright admission that the Xbox One lost the market power the Xbox 360 held?

by Zanreo at 1st May 2017, 8:22 PM

Yeah, if you don't have the console yet there seems to be less reason to buy it (unless you're weird like me and just strongly prefer playing on consoles no matter what) if you can just buy it on PC instead...

Zanreo
by NeilKapit at 1st May 2017, 9:24 PM

The only explanation I can see is that a console is a much easier entertainment center set-up than a PC (especially for high-end graphics games), but the other "Play Anywhere" half seems too limited to be valuable. It's not like a laptop running Windows is a handheld you can just pull out of your pocket and play, and games that require online connections really limit the "anywhere" part.

NeilKapit
melaredblu
by melaredblu at 7th May 2017, 8:34 AM

Wow. Never thought I'd see the day when Microsoft would act like the voice of reason. Well, as much as Microsoft can BE the voice of reason.

by Zanreo at 8th May 2017, 1:49 AM

Heh yeah, he's gotta have his time to shine too...

Zanreo
Guest Who
by Guest Who at 11th May 2017, 10:53 AM

Microsoft owns Windows. I don't think Microsoft will be fazed by this. Almost all PCs is a Windows computer nowadays.

by Zanreo at 11th May 2017, 11:25 PM

Yeah, which is why it can be kinda hard to write their interaction here - while Microsoft in this comic mostly represents Xbox consoles, Microsoft of course also makes Windows. While PC represents PC gaming and isn't too fond of consoles as a whole, including Xbox... so PC just doesn't appreciate the Xbox side of the business.

Zanreo
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